U.S. troops turning to civilian supplier for combat vests, medical kits - more info with comment
One
problem with using US troops on US soil. A little thing called the
Posse Comitatus Act. The day that gets overturned is the day i'm outta
here. FUJIMO
- Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:45 AM EST
david-475776
I TOLD ALL OF YOU ABOUT THESE PROBLEMS BEFORE AND ALL OF YOU THAT ARE NOT HERE STARTED YOUR UNEDUCATED NAME CALLING
This all started in April 2009 with President Obama as Commander In Chief Ordered US Defense Budget Cuts. I told all of you before about how this resulted in the loss of Funding for Maintenance of Aircraft, Vehicles, Ships and Submarines, Weapons Systems, Facilities, etc. and a loss of Sustainment Funding for Ammunition, Fuel, Food, Water, etc. with us eating canned ham, canned green beans, powdered potatoes, during the holidays unlike the President Obama propaganda news videos showing turkeys, mashed potatoes, yams, pumpkin pies, etc.; rationing ammunition, weapons magazines, etc. to the point that US Military Families were sending thru the mail weapons magazines. I told all of you how we were scavenging parts to repair things from battle damaged vehicles, including washing skin fragments and blood off some vehicle parts.
I told all you that are NOT the 1% currently Serving in the US Military as the 92% that have NEVER Served that the US Defense Budget is mostly for the too expensive overpaid "Fair And Living Wage" almost a hundred million US Citizens directly or indirectly employed by US Defense.
I told all of you before about WHY the US Military ends up with Obsolete US Military Equipment.
I told all of you before that US Defense is NOT only the US Military. And includes the majority of the US Domestic Programs, like the US Army Corps of Engineers Infrastructure Projects within the US; US Intelligence (to prevent another 9/11 2001 Attack); US Law Enforcement; Homeland Security; TSA; Border Security; etc..
I told all of you before about the hundreds of thousand overpaid too expensive US Civilians sent here since President Obama's August 2009 US Civilian Surge; and how they f**ked things up here. Long before the Mission to Redacted I told all of you about how the US Civilians that manage the supply system here did not want to give us the batteries for our stereoscopic night vision devices.
I told all of you before where the Billions USDs were being spent and who was doing that with the US Military and the Afghans suffering. Billions USDs spent by President Obama's Political Appointees with nothing built nor done.
I told all of you before about why the US Spends Billions USDs more and still cannot keep up with the 21st Century Russian Federation and Chinese Military Buildups.
I told all of you before about President Obama as Commander In Chief Ordered Reduction In Forces (RIFs) of 90,000 US Military Personnel to be thrown on Unemployment further straining the Veteran's Affairs, and the unemployment of 108,000 US DOD Civilians. Translation the remaining US Military end up with MORE deployments for longer tours (results more suicides, more domestic violence, more divorces, etc.). As the stated reason that Secretary of Defense Gates in protest tendered his Letter of Resignation.
I told all of you before about President Obama signing an agreement with President Karzai for the US Military to remain indefinitely. And I told all of you about how President Obama's Failed Foreign Policies lost the US Military Logistics Support Bases at Pakistan required to support the United Nation's Mission at LANDLOCKED Afghanistan; as without these US Military Logistics Support Bases, Pakistanis Seaports, Khyber Pass the Unsupported United Nations, US, NATO Military Forces MUST abandon US Ally Afghanistan to be massacred again by the Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban. As only 30,000 can only be supported, including International Aid Workers without the US Military Logistics Bases at Pakistan. Our arses stuck here Indefinitely, without the support and backup of the US and US Allies Military Conventional Warfare Forces, that abandon US Ally Afghanistan 2014.
I told all of you before pertaining to Illegal Aliens, US Borders that it is ILLEGAL to use the Active US Military at the US. And it is against President Obama's April 2009 and August 2009 Policies, "US Military will not be used to secure US Borders".
I told all of you about President Obama as Commander In Chief intent of chopping the US Military by 50%; as instead of being capable of conducting Two Wars, and Contingency Missions (like United Nations Missions), chopped to only One War or Contingency Mission. President Obama as Commander In Chief Ordered 11% Defense Budget Cut. Secretary of Defense Penetta, 2012, response, "A 10% Defense Budget Cut will result in a Million (US) Civilians becoming Unemployed. As the reason that Secretary of Defense Penetta is tendering his Letter of Resignation, and 2013 news interview, to work on his (Walnut) Farm with a different kind of Nut.
I told all of you about President Obama refusing to listen to the Commanders on the Ground and his demanding their Letter of Resignation like General McKiernan, General McChrystal, General Petraeus, now General Allen. And I explained each in detail before (still getting all the facts pertaining to General Allen).
My Facts versus your Non Participant no experience Opinions:
Common Definitions from Dictionary.com:
"Fact, noun
3. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true.
Opinion, noun
1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
Opinion See Definition of Prejudice:
Prejudice, noun
1. an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason."
When we were young we did not listen either to the "old people" (survivors with experience) resulting in from the almost thousand of us that started as the US Military Training Teams to US Ally Iraq during the Iran Iraq Wars, rotated to Operation Cyclone till now only a few dozen of us survived, the rest dead as our lessons learned during the Real World Life or Death School of Hard Knocks.
Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:48 PM ESTThis all started in April 2009 with President Obama as Commander In Chief Ordered US Defense Budget Cuts. I told all of you before about how this resulted in the loss of Funding for Maintenance of Aircraft, Vehicles, Ships and Submarines, Weapons Systems, Facilities, etc. and a loss of Sustainment Funding for Ammunition, Fuel, Food, Water, etc. with us eating canned ham, canned green beans, powdered potatoes, during the holidays unlike the President Obama propaganda news videos showing turkeys, mashed potatoes, yams, pumpkin pies, etc.; rationing ammunition, weapons magazines, etc. to the point that US Military Families were sending thru the mail weapons magazines. I told all of you how we were scavenging parts to repair things from battle damaged vehicles, including washing skin fragments and blood off some vehicle parts.
I told all you that are NOT the 1% currently Serving in the US Military as the 92% that have NEVER Served that the US Defense Budget is mostly for the too expensive overpaid "Fair And Living Wage" almost a hundred million US Citizens directly or indirectly employed by US Defense.
I told all of you before about WHY the US Military ends up with Obsolete US Military Equipment.
I told all of you before that US Defense is NOT only the US Military. And includes the majority of the US Domestic Programs, like the US Army Corps of Engineers Infrastructure Projects within the US; US Intelligence (to prevent another 9/11 2001 Attack); US Law Enforcement; Homeland Security; TSA; Border Security; etc..
I told all of you before about the hundreds of thousand overpaid too expensive US Civilians sent here since President Obama's August 2009 US Civilian Surge; and how they f**ked things up here. Long before the Mission to Redacted I told all of you about how the US Civilians that manage the supply system here did not want to give us the batteries for our stereoscopic night vision devices.
I told all of you before where the Billions USDs were being spent and who was doing that with the US Military and the Afghans suffering. Billions USDs spent by President Obama's Political Appointees with nothing built nor done.
I told all of you before about why the US Spends Billions USDs more and still cannot keep up with the 21st Century Russian Federation and Chinese Military Buildups.
I told all of you before about President Obama as Commander In Chief Ordered Reduction In Forces (RIFs) of 90,000 US Military Personnel to be thrown on Unemployment further straining the Veteran's Affairs, and the unemployment of 108,000 US DOD Civilians. Translation the remaining US Military end up with MORE deployments for longer tours (results more suicides, more domestic violence, more divorces, etc.). As the stated reason that Secretary of Defense Gates in protest tendered his Letter of Resignation.
I told all of you before about President Obama signing an agreement with President Karzai for the US Military to remain indefinitely. And I told all of you about how President Obama's Failed Foreign Policies lost the US Military Logistics Support Bases at Pakistan required to support the United Nation's Mission at LANDLOCKED Afghanistan; as without these US Military Logistics Support Bases, Pakistanis Seaports, Khyber Pass the Unsupported United Nations, US, NATO Military Forces MUST abandon US Ally Afghanistan to be massacred again by the Fundamentalist Islamic Taliban. As only 30,000 can only be supported, including International Aid Workers without the US Military Logistics Bases at Pakistan. Our arses stuck here Indefinitely, without the support and backup of the US and US Allies Military Conventional Warfare Forces, that abandon US Ally Afghanistan 2014.
I told all of you before pertaining to Illegal Aliens, US Borders that it is ILLEGAL to use the Active US Military at the US. And it is against President Obama's April 2009 and August 2009 Policies, "US Military will not be used to secure US Borders".
I told all of you about President Obama as Commander In Chief intent of chopping the US Military by 50%; as instead of being capable of conducting Two Wars, and Contingency Missions (like United Nations Missions), chopped to only One War or Contingency Mission. President Obama as Commander In Chief Ordered 11% Defense Budget Cut. Secretary of Defense Penetta, 2012, response, "A 10% Defense Budget Cut will result in a Million (US) Civilians becoming Unemployed. As the reason that Secretary of Defense Penetta is tendering his Letter of Resignation, and 2013 news interview, to work on his (Walnut) Farm with a different kind of Nut.
I told all of you about President Obama refusing to listen to the Commanders on the Ground and his demanding their Letter of Resignation like General McKiernan, General McChrystal, General Petraeus, now General Allen. And I explained each in detail before (still getting all the facts pertaining to General Allen).
My Facts versus your Non Participant no experience Opinions:
Common Definitions from Dictionary.com:
"Fact, noun
3. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true.
Opinion, noun
1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
Opinion See Definition of Prejudice:
Prejudice, noun
1. an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason."
When we were young we did not listen either to the "old people" (survivors with experience) resulting in from the almost thousand of us that started as the US Military Training Teams to US Ally Iraq during the Iran Iraq Wars, rotated to Operation Cyclone till now only a few dozen of us survived, the rest dead as our lessons learned during the Real World Life or Death School of Hard Knocks.
20 Stat. L., 145
June 18, 1878
CHAP. 263 - An act making appropriations for the support of the Army for the fiscal year ending June thirtieth, eighteen hundred and seventy-nine, and for other purposes.
SEC. 15. From and after the passage of this act it shall not be lawful to employ any part of the Army of the United States, as a posse comitatus, or otherwise, for the purpose of executing the laws, except in such cases and under such circumstances as such employment of said force may be expressly authorized by the Constitution or by act of Congress; and no money appropriated by this act shall be used to pay any of the expenses incurred in the employment of any troops in violation of this section And any person willfully violating the provisions of this section shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and on conviction thereof shall be punished by fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars or imprisonment not exceeding two years or by both such fine and imprisonment.
10 U.S.C. (United States Code) 375
Sec. 375. Restriction on direct participation by military personnel:
The Secretary of Defense shall prescribe such regulations as may be necessary to ensure that any activity (including the provision of any equipment or facility or the assignment or detail of any personnel) under this chapter does not include or permit direct participation by a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps in a search, seizure, arrest, or other similar activity unless participation in such activity by such member is otherwise authorized by law.
18 U.S.C. 1385
Sec. 1385. Use of Army and Air Force as posse comitatus
Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of
Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to
execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.
Editor's Note: The only exemption has to do with nuclear materials (18 U.S.C. 831 (e)
For more information, Click on:
"Shadow Government, Martial Law and Locking Americans out of the Liberty Loop." You will discover that the Posse Comitatus Act has already been undermined by 32 CFR 501.4.
Posse Comitatus Violated in WACO Cover-up
1878 Military Law Gets New Attention
Nov 24, 2001 - This bit of relative antiquity defines the role of the US Military in our lives and keeps us from becoming little more than a wealthy banana republic.
Currently, America's military is largely prohibited from acting as a domestic police force. And while the presence of military "advisors" during the siege, brutality and slaughter at WACO Texas set ominous trends in motion, few thought in terms of its implications. But that was before the terrorism of September 11, 2001, now glibly called "911."
"Our way of life has forever changed,'' wrote Sen. John Warner R-Va., in an October 2001 letter to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. "Should this law [Posse Comitatus Act] now be changed to enable our active-duty military to more fully join other domestic assets in this war against terrorism?''
The law, was championed by far-sighted Southern lawmakers in 1878. They had experienced a fifteen year military occupation by the US Army in post-Civil War law enforcement. They understood the heel of a jackboot.
In a nutshell, this act bans the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines from participating in arrests, searches, seizure of evidence and other police-type activity on U.S. soil. The Coast Guard and National Guard troops under the control of state governors are excluded from the act.
Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, testifying in October before the Senate Armed Services Committee, agreed that it might be desirable to give federal troops more of a role in domestic policing to prevent terrorism. "In certain cases we can do more than anyone else in the country because of the special capabilities that we have,'' he said.
Dennis Corrigan, a retired colonel who taught the law at the Army's Judge Advocate General's school, says legislators should resist the urge to change it. The military isn't trained to be a police force, he says, so it should stick to the skills for which it is trained: surveillance, information gathering, logistical support. All of these activities are allowable under Posse Comitatus. "I'm not sure, even with what's going on today, that Congress wants the military arresting people.''
But Michael Spak, former Army JAG colonel now teaching at Chicago-Kent College of Law had another spin. "It's good for the law to tell the truth and for everybody to follow the law,'' he said. "But is it necessary? No.''
Many American politicians and bureaucrats hold what might be called a "Consumerist" interpretation of freedom. In a nation where liberty is defined by the ability to choose from a variety of breakfast cereals, it may not be long before the supermarket cash register will be nicknamed "Checkpoint Charlie."
Michael G. Leventhal - Editor/Publisher
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